Season 2: Foggy was actually shot by a special gun that froze him in time and space, only for ~~Red Skull~~ Bullseye to bring him back and take over his body, but Foggy is freed with the help of the Avengers
Notoriously_So2025-10-04 06:21
Crimkam2025-10-04 07:05
it turns out foggy faked his own death to get back at Matt
SecretWarsIsComing2025-10-04 11:28
The New NEW Avemgers
n_mcrae_19822025-10-04 17:20
No need for anything convoluted like that.
Just have him say “Have you been to Tahiti? It’s a magical place.”
Delicious_Base_98122025-10-05 21:56
Agents of Shield fan in the wild?
Deakul2025-10-04 18:02
I don't know if I'm being over dramatic or not but Foggy dying pretty much ruined the show for me to the point that I just couldn't watch anymore after that.
Such a senseless shock value death of a beloved character.
colantor2025-10-05 04:57
I was tired of foggy and karen and didnt want either back, so i was happy with it. I know thats a very unpopular opinion.
Temporary_Draft_66122025-10-05 17:26
Unpopular is an understatement lmao
KlausKinki772025-10-05 20:26
Yeah, idk what the writers were thinking. I know that DD is more of a dark show, but killing off the parts that worked and everyone loved, just continue with new sidekicks without any meaningful intro was such a bummer. I completely lost interest and just recently watched the last episodes. Which were surprisingly good tbf, you could feel where the new team took over. Still a bummer they killed the characters I cared the most about though.
TheMikey22072025-10-04 06:19
This is exactly what I’m expecting, S1 was a very Frankenstein’ed season with parts being from before overhaul and the overhaul.
The final 2 episodes showed so much potential and they were the ones that were done with the overhaul. I think now that the right people are in charge we are going to be getting a much better show with S2! Plus Charlie and Vincent give their thoughts on things which is great because they know those characters so well and know what the fans want to see.
Notoriously_So2025-10-04 06:21
I agree, completely. Episode 8 especially, was beautifully shot and really well-made.
LADYBIRD_HILL2025-10-04 07:14
At the same time some of the original stuff was good too. I was a fan of the bank episode.
RainbowTardigrade2025-10-04 08:50
The bank episode was awesome. It was really nice to see the connections to the wider MCU through Kamala's dad, while still getting a standalone adventure where we get to focus on DD as a character rather than on the overarching plot. MCU stuff tends to focus on the high stakes stuff, so it's nice when we get to see the heroes do more "normal" hero things every now and then.
MrSeanSir22025-10-04 09:22
Yes, I worry they will just never do anything like that again and it's going to replicate the Netflix show's tone exclusively from here out
NoiceM8_4202025-10-05 10:35
It very likely will.
RellenD2025-10-04 16:20
The bank robbery thing that was definitely before the change was better than everything else.
I wish they would have just stuck with their original vision
Orangelikeblue2025-10-05 18:43
The bank robbery was my favorite episode, such a master piece. Exciting, captivating and wholesome at the same time. Got me glued to the TV the whole time
SmallTimeBoot2025-10-04 06:26
Bet they don’t
Flintstones_VRV_Fan2025-10-04 06:38
I really hope they do, but my hopes aren’t high. Season 1 looked like an NBC drama in comparison to the Netflix series.
Bolt_9952025-10-04 06:36
Why were Marvel Studios so hell bent on fucking up Daredevil in the first place?
HellaWavy2025-10-04 08:36
Their indecisiveness on whether to acknowledge the Netflix shows as „canon“ to the wider MCU or not is really beyond me. You have a beloved show and their plan was „nah, let‘s just pretend it didn’t exist and start off with something new and obviously inferior“. The overhaul was the right decision but it was always clear S1 was gonna suffer from it.
starsandbribes2025-10-04 12:32
Meanwhile they have a whole terrible show called Secret Invasion they’ve not acknowledged that has huge implications. Its hilarious they can’t canonise Agents of Shield because “it would make a mess of things” as if the MCU hasn’t always been wildly inconsistent with plot holes anyway.
EdwinMcduck2025-10-04 11:55
The entire debacle of the D+ Marvel Studios output can be summed up with Kevin Feige thinking Marvel Television sucked and he could outdo it without really trying. They overspent on a bunch of stuff that was trying too hard to be movies. They tried really hard to ignore everything the old Television team did (often to worse results). They assumed the viewership would automatically be higher (it was not, to date Agents Of SHIELD is still comfortably the best domestic viewership for a live action Marvel show).
As much as I like Marvel Studios' overall output there's a pretty consistent problem where they overcompensate with any "remakes" they do to make it different. As much as I love MCU Spider-Man it is bizarre that Uncle Ben is unimportant and half of his story so far isn't really New York based. Their Fantastic Four movie, while overall solid, definitely leaned way too much on the Multiverse when there's really no reason it needed that. I get that they felt they wouldn't be special in a world where so many heroes were already active but even in the comics they basically established that the Atlas WW2 characters existed (the original Human Torch and Namor) right away (so they were never the only superheroes in their world). They threw millions of dollars down the drain trying to initially ignore Netflix Daredevil in Born Again. Blade is currently nothing more than millions in sunk costs from Marvel Studios not being able to crack the plot for a Blade movie when the first two exist and give a solid template. Secret Invasion was the Marvel Studios attempt at a spy show with aliens, and AoS did it better (it even had Sam Jackson and Cobie Smulders, so they were in a better and more successful series years prior 🫠). Heck, they arguably started trying to completely overhaul franchises that never even had a previous movie or show for the MCU take. It hasn't been working. Their Thunderbolts has very little to do with any Thunderbolts thing that existed, and it was not particularly successful.
CaptHayfever2025-10-05 03:07
> Kevin Feige thinking Marvel Television sucked
People assume this, but there's no basis for it. He's never once spoken an unkind word about the division, & even went out of his way to *defend* the old shows from criticism the last time he talked about them before Born Again came out.
EdwinMcduck2025-10-05 03:27
He hated some of the people involved. Frankly it was for good reason (Ike Perlmutter in particular), but Studios was still incredibly dismissive of everything Marvel Television did after things really came to the tipping point with that power struggle (so after the first two AoS seasons and the first DD and JJ seasons). Most of the connectivity with the old shows seems to come from other people.
CaptHayfever2025-10-05 03:35
Oh, yeah, he had no love lost with Perlmutter, but that stemmed from things Perlmutter did *to Studios*.
There's still several easter-egg references to Marvel Television in Marvel Studios' output between stuff filmed in 2015 (the last year Feige was under Perlmutter) & 2023 (the year the Defenders Saga was added to the D+ timeline & people called that "recanonizing" it).
ProductArizona2025-10-04 06:55
I thought season 1 was great
sulwen3142025-10-04 08:32
I loved it too! It was a delightful surprise after I'd really tried to keep my expectations low.
Thomas_JCG2025-10-04 12:08
If the only way a show is enjoyable is to keep expectations low, then it was not a good show.
TheDutchTank2025-10-04 13:49
Is that at all what they said?
DaitongII2025-10-04 07:33
I really liked season one but hoping we get a more hyper-realized Daredevil like the acrobatic take from She-Hulk/Echo. Want some more comic bookiness from the second season.
RellenD2025-10-04 16:22
That's literally the opposite direction they're going.
Scary-Command22322025-10-04 07:38
He just made it sound like a big violent dumb action series to me with Matt and Fisk in a violent scene together at the end, like the end of S1 and S3 but I doubt with the emotional weight of especially S3. BA1 rushed from plot point to plot point like a tick list and he's not making it sound better.
silverBruise_322025-10-04 10:48
He just gave the same spiel they always do - get hype! Cameos! "Bigger and better!" Nothing about the writing, though, which was the biggest issue in season 1, except that they haven't started writing yet.
Yeah, I have zero expectations here. The second season will be more of the same as season 1
Scary-Command22322025-10-04 13:17
He's also a writer without a record of quality drama, not unlike the former sacked showrunners. More bang wallop or bordering on silly. It's like the more I hear the more I'm sad.
silverBruise_322025-10-04 14:37
Yeah, he's the last in the long line of unproven writers Marvel hired because they were cheap, and, consequently, malleable. That doesn't spell success by any standard
Scary-Command22322025-10-04 14:57
He penned the latest Tron film and was on Tron 1, eragon etc so I think he has proven himself, but not necessarily the type of writer we got used to with the OG series. More popcorn type than a Drew Goddard quality type.
silverBruise_322025-10-04 15:37
Those were not what you'd call smashing hits, or critical darlings. Eragon was a flop, come to think of it. Hardly what I'd call a writer with ideas. In addition to that, he has no experience with drama, as you've pointed out.
Kingpin12322025-10-04 13:32
Given the set photos for it, it definitely looks like Matt gives Fisk another beatdown but this time they might go to prison together.
MasterAnnatar2025-10-04 07:49
Season one is the only time I've ever been aggressively luke-warm on a show but at the same time I gave me a ton of faith in the next season.
RoyalComplete75912025-10-04 14:06
Hey, you're cute 🫣🫣🫣
reineluxe2025-10-04 15:25
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DavidZ28442025-10-04 16:57
Do you know what this gif is from? This is fantastic lol, great use of it too
reineluxe2025-10-04 16:59
Modern Family!
DavidZ28442025-10-04 17:06
Thanks! Been hearing about that show for a while, gotta get around to watching it one of these days
RoyalComplete75912025-10-04 19:03
Why not? It's just a compliment, didn't understand so many downvotes 🤔🤔🤔
RoyalComplete75912025-10-04 19:05
Are you cute too? I'm curious
CaptHayfever2025-10-05 03:04
Brava!
Repulsive_Season_9082025-10-04 08:07
Even the parts post-overhaul weren't any good.
Latter-Ad63082025-10-04 08:19
Given the behind the scenes drama, it’s a miracle that season 1 was as good as it was. I fully expect season 2 to be back to the heights of the Netflix era.
Running19822025-10-05 03:17
Season 1 was damn near perfect. The bank episode was even enjoyable. Maybe the bar has been lowered by recent MCU disappointments, but I can’t wait for S2.
DontBeAngryBeHappy2025-10-04 08:58
What’s everyone’s take on the Bank episode in S1? Do you think it was a filler ep or not?
silverBruise_322025-10-04 10:29
It was definitely a filler episode. Opinions differ on whether or not it was a good episode
vfoster2025-10-04 18:35
Didn't like much anything about it. And the cameo was really forced and unnatural. I don't mind one off episodes as long as they are good. This was definitely filler.
chiefbrody622025-10-06 13:25
What cameo are you talking about? Are you talking about Kamala's dad? Because that wasn't a cameo, that was a main role in that episode, and didn't feel forced at all IMO.
cygnus22025-10-04 22:15
It was probably my favorite in the season. I loved watching Matt confidently and professionally handle a situation without even putting the suit on.
chiefbrody622025-10-06 13:21
I loved it.
MrKevora2025-10-04 09:01
Season 1 had a bit of an identity crisis due to the overhaul, which resulted in some odd shifts in tone and some weirdly edited and obviously ADRed moments in order to fit the reshoots’ new narrative. I’m still glad they made this overhaul, as acknowledging the Netflix show as clearly being canon greatly elevated it for me - that was absolutely the right move, as was bringing back Ayelet Zurer instead of a recast Vanessa. Season 1 often felt like a bit of a compromise, because reshooting the entire thing was obviously not an option. But I still really enjoyed it and it showed a lot of promise concerning where the show could go in future seasons, so I’m highly optimistic.
UltimateArtist8292025-10-04 10:43
No more shitty CG, please. If they are gonna keep using CG in season 2, at least polish them up and not just making a rough first pass CG and just call it a day.
Thomas_JCG2025-10-04 12:11
*Born Again* was my biggest disappointment. I honestly wish season 2 is a soft reboot, too many things went wrong.
thevokplusminus2025-10-04 12:18
Does this mean they hired a professional writer this time?
starsandbribes2025-10-04 12:30
Take time with pacing the story and stop giving us this whispy grey undersaturated look that you get on all straight to streaming action movies.
geekphreak2025-10-04 15:42
I *really* like the Daredevil show. But Born Again was just Matt **not** being Daredevil the entire time. I get it’s because of Foggy, but, we wanted Daredevil
ArcherAprilPikeKirk2025-10-05 02:23
That’s exactly what a TV show should do… Born Again is the only Marvel show so far that’s actually felt like a TV series
MasterWinston2025-10-05 03:42
Good to hear but I’m worried the damage is done
Ordinary-Chain-80472025-10-05 03:48
I’ve heard people say (I haven’t finished the first season yet I’m 5 episodes in) but anyways I’ve heard people say that season 1 doesn’t have enough Daredevil but that makes sense cuz Foggys dead so obviously it’s going to take a while for him to put on the suit again so season 2 is definitely going to fix that issue.
Skibot992025-10-05 04:39
Honestly I feel caving into fan pressure was a mistake and they should’ve stuck to their guns with rebooting
Banana_man_-2025-10-14 05:42
It was pressure from Charlie Cox and Vincent Dnofrio
shehulud2025-10-07 01:12
But is D+ learning in general? How can they create stunning works like Andor and then keep punching themselves in the junk on other properties? Get it together.
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Just have him say “Have you been to Tahiti? It’s a magical place.”
Such a senseless shock value death of a beloved character.
The final 2 episodes showed so much potential and they were the ones that were done with the overhaul. I think now that the right people are in charge we are going to be getting a much better show with S2! Plus Charlie and Vincent give their thoughts on things which is great because they know those characters so well and know what the fans want to see.
I wish they would have just stuck with their original vision
As much as I like Marvel Studios' overall output there's a pretty consistent problem where they overcompensate with any "remakes" they do to make it different. As much as I love MCU Spider-Man it is bizarre that Uncle Ben is unimportant and half of his story so far isn't really New York based. Their Fantastic Four movie, while overall solid, definitely leaned way too much on the Multiverse when there's really no reason it needed that. I get that they felt they wouldn't be special in a world where so many heroes were already active but even in the comics they basically established that the Atlas WW2 characters existed (the original Human Torch and Namor) right away (so they were never the only superheroes in their world). They threw millions of dollars down the drain trying to initially ignore Netflix Daredevil in Born Again. Blade is currently nothing more than millions in sunk costs from Marvel Studios not being able to crack the plot for a Blade movie when the first two exist and give a solid template. Secret Invasion was the Marvel Studios attempt at a spy show with aliens, and AoS did it better (it even had Sam Jackson and Cobie Smulders, so they were in a better and more successful series years prior 🫠). Heck, they arguably started trying to completely overhaul franchises that never even had a previous movie or show for the MCU take. It hasn't been working. Their Thunderbolts has very little to do with any Thunderbolts thing that existed, and it was not particularly successful.
People assume this, but there's no basis for it. He's never once spoken an unkind word about the division, & even went out of his way to *defend* the old shows from criticism the last time he talked about them before Born Again came out.
There's still several easter-egg references to Marvel Television in Marvel Studios' output between stuff filmed in 2015 (the last year Feige was under Perlmutter) & 2023 (the year the Defenders Saga was added to the D+ timeline & people called that "recanonizing" it).
Yeah, I have zero expectations here. The second season will be more of the same as season 1
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